Saturday, November 03, 2012

Foregone But Maybe

There's a perfect prophetic 'tense' in Scripture which goes like this:
Something is going to happen in 'the future' that is so certain to take place that it is spoken of
as if it has already come to pass-the return of Christ to judge the nations and rule the world from Jerusalem
is the best example I can think of-all through the Bible it is stated as having happened.
Of course, 'future and past' are relative only to OUR point on the timeline-God standing outside of time sees the entire thing from one end to the other; eventually (another word trapped in entropy) God will bring all that He desires into Eternity.
Back to now-all elements of the (political) storm seem to be pointing to a Romney victory next week...but not so fast, Sam.
Sometimes God acts to confound the wisdom of man-and He may not be done yet with Barack Obama.
(God might do it to see how many Christians get mad at Him instead of accepting whatever He sends our way.)
I listened to a great sermon by John MacArthur last night about prideful 'world leaders'. He used as text Daniel chapter four, when Nebuchadnezzar, King of the entire known world, has Daniel interpret his dream of a great tree which is chopped down. The long/short of it is that Nebuchadnezzar was the tree, and he would lose his kingdom for a time because of his pride.
A year later the king was humbled with a madness that made him like a beast of the field, a condition which lasted seven years until his reason returned. With his reinstatement Nebuchadnezzar made a proclamation throughout his kingdom which Daniel records in chapter four.
Just in case it's not on your reading program today, here's the pull quote from the humbled king:
37“Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise, exalt and honor the King of heaven, for all His works are true and His ways just, and He is able to humble those who walk in pride.” Daniel 4:37


Doug said...

MacArthur's sermon had a collateral effect- a world leader should not be arrogant, but should be humble before God and man...and the same goes for Christians, for Me. I need humbling more often than many, and God makes it happen. Boy, does He ever!

Doug said...

For those of you who can't get enough of Ann's postings:
You are Welcome, America!

Doug said...

In Madison, Wis., Obama, his voice hoarse, urged voters to help him "finish what we started."

We're doing all we can, Mr President, to finish what you started. We will hopefully wipe it off the map of history. He can sit with Jimmy Carter at the failed one term Presidents table at IHOP.

Two things: I recall that I was 100% wrong four years ago-I could be wrong again.
numero dos: It isn't simply a political 'game' where one side wins. If Obama is re-elected, America loses. If Romney succeeds, it is a win for everyone, as we will not have "Taxageddon" and "Obamacare" dropped on us. I hope.
Right now I'm using my pretty MacBook Air to listen to Rush Limbaugh while 'working' (hah!) on my desktop.
I will be gloriously working during the election coverage, but by now, it's a done deal in the hearts and minds anyway-the mythical 'undecided voter' has retreated into the fog for another four years.
Vote! And may the best Republican win!

Doug said...

My record of being wrong on elections
streak continues-I just got home, and according to the internets, Barack Obama has won re-election.
I know that some of my friends will be upset, angry even, and I can't blame them for feeling that way.
In Lamentations it says:
"37 Who is there who speaks and it comes to pass, Unless the Lord has commanded it?
38 Is it not from the mouth of the Most High That both good and ill go forth?
39 Why should any living mortal, or any man, Offer complaint in view of his sins?
40 Let us examine and probe our ways, And let us return to the LORD."
Lamentations 3:37-40

May God have Mercy on the United States of America.

Doug said...

Just checked Michelle, and I echo what she says:

James said...

At least the political ads are over.

I sat this one out. Obama's spending concerns me while Romney's lack of a plan and pandering to the far Right left me cold (although it seems clear he's personally not that radical in terms of social issues).

Meh ... things will go on.

Doug said...

Hello James-things will indeed go on.
I had a good day, and it's not even half over-without details, some stuff was cleared up, signed, sealed and delivered, and viskas bus gerai.

Lucia said...

James: it seems clear [Romney]'s not personally that radical on social issues

The trouble with Romney, or the biggest one anyway imho, is that he's been running for president for about six years and still nobody knows what he is personally. The least charitable take is that he's a soulless, cash-register-hearted egomaniac whose only core belief is that he should have unimaginable power. A kinder one, from Ezra Klein of all people, is that he's not about ideology, he's about data and about management. He believed, with considerable data to back him up, that he could apply his extraordinary gift for management to the country's troubles and bring morning back to America again.

(I read an interesting piece by David Stockman, once Reagan's budget director, on Romney's business acumen: in a nutshell, Stockman doesn't think much of it. While you can't accuse Stockman of being a liberal, he does have some fairly odd economic beliefs.)

Yesterday I saw two post-election vignettes set against each other. One was Obama's emotional and moving thanks to his campaign staff. The other was the news that several Romney staff members discovered at the end of their cab ride home on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning that their credit cards tied to the campaign no longer worked. I can't imagine either man doing what the other did. I guess I subscribe more to the power-mad-plutocrat theory than to the management-genius one.

Doug, I am curious about one thing: were you for Romney or against Obama? I can understand the latter but not the former. (Obviously I disagree with both stances, but given your worldview as I know it I understand why you didn't want Obama reelected.)

Doug said...

Hi Lu-in a nutshell, I am against the Liberal policies of Obama, of Clinton, Reid, and all the rest of the nannystate Democrats.
I believe in taking personal responsibility for my actions, and paying my own way. I reject the idea that Government needs to control anything of a social nature: keep the roads and bridges fixed, keep a strong military, set some guidelines for commerce.
I reject the idea that the Government can make me buy insurance, pay for the result of the poor choices of others, can get in my personal business.
I object to Obama more than I was 'for' Romney.
Romney stood as the only alternative to Obama-if it had been Santorum or Bachman who had won, I would have voted for either of them.
President Obama won the election, but the American people, all of us, are the real losers. Democrats are going to be just as hard hit by the continued policies of his administration.
As I wrote before the election, God had His purposes for putting Obama in office, and if God wants to keep him in the Oval office, I am in no position to tell God that He made a mistake. I trust that things will get better only when my Lord returns.
Luckily, I am relatively poor-call me lower middle class-so I don't have much to lose through over taxation.
See you on the other side, Rhodes.

Lucia said...

Like you, I vote more for party than for person, but I will say on Tuesday I got to vote for at least three people I highly respect and admire, including the president, and that hasn't happened too often in my lifetime. (The other two are Elizabeth Warren and my state senator, an amazingly hard-working and capable guy.)

It remains to be seen what deals get cut and how things are sliced and diced, but if my taxes go back up to where they were under Clinton -- you may recall that benighted era of full employment and budget surpluses -- I won't complain.